I ordered this dish bar without the tin because I happened to have a small container that was the perfect size. I like that you have the option to order with or without the tin for refilling. I like the round shape of the dish bar and it's a good size at 7.5 oz! I have their natural, compostable, bamboo and agave Dish Brush Kit. I use these to easily get lather from the bar and wash dishes with. This dish soap does not dry out my hands which is great because I do a lot of hand washing. There is a very faint scent of the natural ingredients used to make the bar. I have to put it up to my nose, once suds up, to smell anything and I think what I smell, smells good! I love natural ingredient smells! This dish bar suds up great (3 adults live here) and I get several plates, utensils, and glasses washed up before I'd need to get a little more if I do. The round shape is perfect for my brushes and for holding to lather up hands with for hand washing. I have no complaints. I recommend this!